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December 15, 2010
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1.
Linda | December 15, 2010 at 12:44 am
Hey Adam,
Nothing to add except a huge Thank You for your diligence in keeping us posted and updated these past few weeks. Your tireless work is very greatly appreciated!
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atty79 | December 15, 2010 at 12:45 am
Already called Representative Buchanan to vote for repeal. I urge everyone to do the same…call your representatives.
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Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 12:46 am
Of course, this does not mean that we can afford to let up on the Senate. We have to keep on the phones and make sure that our senators know that they are to put our military ahead of their vacations, and that means that they need to remain at work until DADT is repealed.
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 12:51 am
Ditto to Adam! 77%! Woot!!
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 12:51 am
√
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 1:02 am
√+1
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 1:03 am
reserved feelings today after such a roller coaster… subs…
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adambink | December 15, 2010 at 1:08 am
You bet. Remember to tip your bloggers.
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adambink | December 15, 2010 at 1:08 am
In fact, you can!
https://secure.couragecampaign.org/page/contribut…
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Ann S. | December 15, 2010 at 1:23 am
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Randy | December 15, 2010 at 1:50 am
***is biting all his nails off***
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Dave in ME | December 15, 2010 at 1:52 am
YEAH! Chellie rocks! I just hope Snowe hears our calls!
Dave in MAINE
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 2:33 am
at work…trying not to think about it…."breathe" I keep telling myself….sending positive energy toward Washington…
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 2:38 am
All the while listening to customer complain about computer issues….which seems tedious compared to fact that persons LIVES are on the line with a vote from a bunch of finicky senators who find going to dentist or the beach or adding more money to their own bank account more important….
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Sagesse | December 15, 2010 at 2:52 am
Are you listening, Senators? Nike had it right. Just do it.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 2:56 am
Rule debate on DADT after the current Fake Calls vote.
You can watch it live: http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx
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StraightForEquality | December 15, 2010 at 3:02 am
Thanks for the link. There's nothing like following real time!
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 3:07 am
Tweeters – Here is a tool to Tweet your representatives and senators: http://www.hrc.org/tweet/
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 3:07 am
cool. thx!
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 3:21 am
Tee Hee
Lawsuit: Iowa Vote to Oust Pro-Equality Judges Was Illegal
Could the vote in November to oust three Iowa Supreme Court justices be thrown out on a technicality?
More: http://www.towleroad.com/2010/12/lawsuit-iowa-vot…
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 3:24 am
that would be AWESOME!!!!!!!! Tee Hee X a million!!
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 3:29 am
That is fantastic! I so hope it works.
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Ronnie | December 15, 2010 at 3:32 am
Do Ask…Do Tell….Treat all your soldiers very well…They sacrifice for you….so respect them too…American does not mean some…so lets all join hands a hum… ; ) ….Ronnie
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 3:35 am
Seems a bit of a stretch. The report says the ballot for the judges was by itself, but on the back of the same piece of paper containing the ballot for candidates and issues.
This will come down to how the courts interpret what constitutes a "separate ballot." Does it have to be on a separate piece of paper, or is having it on the back of another ballot sufficiently separate? I think this is a long shot.
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 3:43 am
I agree, but love the idea!….as always, appreciate your expert perspective Kathleen : )
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 3:44 am
taxes through the senate…at least something is moving!
Breaking News Alert: Senate passes tax package
December 15, 2010 1:27:15 PM
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A sweeping tax package negotiated by the White House and GOP leaders sailed through the Senate on a 81-19 vote Wednesday and now awaits action by the House as early as Thursday.
http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/TNGYL1/YH8…
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adambink | December 15, 2010 at 3:48 am
Debate is starting folks, updates at the top.
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Ronnie | December 15, 2010 at 3:48 am
Ok…..so now the Republicans got what they wanted & they can vote to repeal DADT & pass NDAA..no questions asked……just vote yes…..that is what they promised…..I'm not going to hold my breath….but, I'm just pointing it out….<3…Ronnie
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 3:49 am
HELL YES!!
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 3:51 am
Yes she does! Woot Chellie!
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 3:58 am
boo to Diaz Balart!
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:00 am
Diaz-Balart of Florida is arguing against the bill on the grounds that the Democrats have not allowed debate on other things. I can't see that he had anything at all to say about DADT. He just complained that Republicans were not allowed to debate other things. Wierd.
The Democrats are speaking about DADT and what is wrong with it.
I am guessing that the Republicans realize that they are going to lose, and so Diaz-Balart used his time to just make a political speach?
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Karin | December 15, 2010 at 4:00 am
Good to see the Rep. Diaz-Balart sticking to the Republican plan during this debate– debate the rule, the process, and pretty much anything except the actual policy.
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:03 am
!!!!
Adam are you on site? will you punch Gingrey in the nose for me? GGGRRRrrrrr
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:03 am
This guy from Georgia is annoying – not as annoying as McCain – but annoying!
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Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 4:07 am
SO glad she was re-elected up your way, Dave. It partially makes up for the disaster of LePage getting elected.
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:07 am
Apparently the head of the Marines thinks that knowing their collegues are gay is going to cause straight Marines to either chew their own arms off, or maybe start shooting each other… I can't see what else he might mean by there being a danger of death or dismemberment if DADT is repealed.
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Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 4:07 am
+1000 for our resident wordsmith!
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:09 am
I think he thinks they are all just closeted homosexuals who will go wild if DADT is repealed – Marines Gone Wild?. Obviously he doesn't think much of his Marines.
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Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 4:10 am
It's the usual. The Marines are calm, cool, and collected when facing IEDs, snipers, and suicide bombers, but the mere thought of the guy next to them checking out their butt? OH NOEZ!!!!!! *faint*
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:12 am
On a military headstone… "I was given a medal for killing two men, and a discharge for loving one."
I love that.
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:14 am
I would think that Marines who have had to contain themselves even MORE than their collegues have aptly demonstrated their ability to hold it together, don't you?
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:17 am
Barney Frank is railing about the fact that the procedural questions that Diaz-Balart are riduculous.
The truth of it is, to us standing outside are looking at MOST of what Congress does as insane procedure. Honestly, WE DON'T CARE HOW YOU GET IT DONE. JUST GET IT DONE!
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:22 am
!!!!!!!!
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:25 am
Go Pingree! She addresses the procedural point well. She says that when someone does not have substantive argument against a bill, they fall back to arguing about the process. Good for her.
Then she goes back to address the fact that the study is so conclusive and we should deal with that. Good job.
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Ed | December 15, 2010 at 4:26 am
is there a live feed to watch this? cspan perhaps?
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:26 am
!!!! Gays love Pingree! (and anongry!)
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:27 am
http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:27 am
aka angry gry ; )i
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:27 am
I'll stop posting now…. ::sheepishly leaving now because can't type::
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nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 4:28 am
I called my good-for-nothing Representative (racist, sexist, homophobic jerk that he is) & asked him to vote to repeal DADT. I know it won't do any good in the long run — but I love being a pain in his backside.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:29 am
An amendment? Did anyone hear what that was?
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:29 am
Do you have McCain too?
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nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 4:30 am
There, there, Gregory.
*gentle hug*
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nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 4:30 am
Nope. My senators are Boxer & Feinstein. I'm lucky, there. =)
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:32 am
I tried to trade McCain but no other states wanted him.
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:32 am
"sniff"
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:33 am
LOL! you can have Orin Hatch! I'll pay well!
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:34 am
…to go back to the processes…..*rolling eyes*
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celdd | December 15, 2010 at 4:34 am
I called my congress critter – John Campbell of CA – and asked if he would be voting to abolish DADT this afternoon. The lady said he won't know how he is going to vote until the vote happens (!). He doesn't know?
I told her I urged him to vote yes and uphold the Constitution to treat all citizens equally.
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Mackenzie | December 15, 2010 at 4:34 am
thanks for the updates Adam!
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:36 am
Ye Gads! (@ doesn't know how he is going to vote..)
Thank u for calling celdd!!!!!
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 4:38 am
My Rep is David Drier. I called his office, urging a yes vote. The staff member took my personal info, including my street address (presumably to confirm I'm in his district) and said she would pass along my message. She said she is unaware of the Congressman's position on the matter. Riiiight.
I was tempted to also pass along a message urging him to come out, but decided to keep in classy.
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:41 am
whoa…
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 4:42 am
So I am watching the CSPAN link….will they continue to mill around for a long time? What's the procedure?
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:42 am
I say we check with Uganda… see if they've got anyone they want to trade for McCain. I think just about anybody that Uganda wants to get rid of would be a step up for you.
Perhaps we can even get some sort of a group deal. McCain and Hatch for two as yet to be named Ugandan gay rights supporters. We will even throw in a bonus, they can have Maggie and an option on Brian, but only if they agree to take Louis as part of the deal. We will pay shipping and handling. I say we start a collection right now.
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:43 am
The "time remaining" countdown is how long everyone has to register their vote… then they mill around a bit and start talking again.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 4:44 am
Do they vote by turning in slips? Why not a show of hands? (I know this is making more savvy posters take 10 steps back to explain this.)
Or maybe this feed isn't live?
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aaron in san fran | December 15, 2010 at 4:45 am
5 nay democrats? WTF????
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James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 4:46 am
this is really intense!!!
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 4:47 am
0:00 time remaining…? I guess there are people tallying the votes turned in now?
And what's with this "NV" column. Is that "Not Voting"?
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adambink | December 15, 2010 at 4:47 am
There were 26 nays on the bill itself, so I wouldn't be surprised. Also, just a reminder that this is a vote on the rule, not the bill itself.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:47 am
I think this is on an amendment
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 4:47 am
I think it's electronic.
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:47 am
Before anyone watching CSPAN starts to panic, it appears what they are voting on is NOT the DADT policy, they are voting on how to the debate will go.
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BK | December 15, 2010 at 4:48 am
A whole lotta those possible votes sound more like a "HELL (maybe)…"
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 4:48 am
and the feed is live
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Ed | December 15, 2010 at 4:49 am
well, i see homophobia/bigotry is alive and well
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:49 am
"This is a procedural vote setting debate rules for the bill"
whatever that means -
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 4:49 am
"5 nay democrats? WTF????"
Me no like-y.
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 4:49 am
Yes, NV means not voted.
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adambink | December 15, 2010 at 4:49 am
I am not, but Gingrey is one of my top 7 or 8 most annoying House members.
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 4:51 am
This has to pass in order for them to take up the DADT bill.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:51 am
Kathleen – can you explain what a procedural vote is?
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 4:51 am
yes! come out come out wherever you are…(wizard of oz)
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adambink | December 15, 2010 at 4:51 am
Folks, there appears to be some confusion about what this vote is. Please see Update 18 at the top for an explanation.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:51 am
2/3 pass or just majority pass?
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BK | December 15, 2010 at 4:51 am
Perhaps they'll question their own masculinity if the "feminine" (LOL) gays are allowed in the service.
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 4:52 am
… or at least some procedural bill allowing them to take up the DADT bill has to pass. I think this particular one sets one hour for debate on the DADT bill and signifies no amendments to the bill. But I' not sure on the particulars, maybe someone can clarify.
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BK | December 15, 2010 at 4:52 am
Crap. I've got to turn in for the night. See the results in the morning. Grrr, this always happens! Then I toss & turn the whole night. Oh well. Ciao, my friends!
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:53 am
Thank you Adam.
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 4:54 am
I think it just means that it's a vote on procedure, rather than the substance of a measure.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 4:55 am
"CONFUSION"? Here?? About legal procedure???
I wouldn't believe such an outrageous slur was be uttered if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes!!
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 4:55 am
And the 'time remaining' clock appears to not be working.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 4:55 am
Q: Are the "NVs" all present, and CAN vote?
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 4:56 am
Sleep well. We will hold down the fort till you get back.
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elliom | December 15, 2010 at 4:56 am
Because the House is so large, they have to set rules on debate before they can take up legislation (this is not a problem in the Senate), that define how long, who leads, who gets to speak, and in what order, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_…
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Michelle Evans | December 15, 2010 at 4:57 am
Ah, another John Campbell constituent. Been in his district since he first took office (and many years previously). I can tell you with absolute certainty that John Campbell will do one of two things with regard to DADT: 1) He will vote against repeal, or 2) He will simply not vote.
Campbell is an absolute LGBTphobe. He has voted against ENDA and also the Matthew Shepard/James Byrd Hate Crimes bill. I have been in his office, with a group of fellow LGBT people–two of us veterans–to supposedly have a meeting about this issue. The first time we arrived for our scheduled appointment, Campbell decided to run away and could not be found. And remember that this was a Scheduled and Verified appointment! The appointment was rescheduled, and our group returned. This time, instead of the promised meeting with Campbell, we did get our meeting, but with a junior staff person.
The meeting initially went very well, and we had high hopes that maybe we had accomplished something. However, as we soon learned, we were all just given the brush-off and anything discussed and promised in his office was just to get rid of us. He has never returned one message from anyone in our group, nor has his staffer. And he has never once voted in favor of even one single thing that would benefit the LGBT community.
Congressman John Campbell is an absolute lost cause as far as the LGBT community is concerned, so don't even waste your time with him. He is a typical Republican Homophobe and Transphobe–guaranteed. And even then, he rarely even shows up to vote (thus number 2 above). I believe he has the worst record of any congressman for actually being present to make a vote, regardless of the issue. Oh, and he is also a Birther.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 4:57 am
I spotted someone in the aisle from the back (in a navy suit with long blonde hair) that looked suspiciously like Ann Coulter! Could she have infiltrated the chambers???
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 4:58 am
As it was, we WERE all majoring in Marriage Equality and the Court System – now we are all getting a minor in Bills, Amendments and Debate.
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 4:58 am
In one of those 'wish I'd thought to say that' moments I just thought of the message I should have left "Anyone who is willing to serve his country – whether in the military or as an elected representative in Congress – should not have to lie about who they are in order to serve.
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adambink | December 15, 2010 at 5:00 am
The rule passed, 232-180. Update above.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:00 am
What the heck just happened?
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:01 am
How odd that they look eager to hurry and vote to congratulate a sports figure. But for civil rights, that's more iffy.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:01 am
Can't they just stick to one subject at a time? This is worse than Daytime Television!
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 5:02 am
DOH!!!
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:02 am
I think it was a good step forward, procedurally.
I need a huge bowl of popcorn….but it might give me away at work.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:04 am
Popcorn sounds good right now – thanks – gonna pop some now? Extra butter!
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 5:04 am
eating a large bowl of organic greens….less conspicuous…
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 5:05 am
Ciao BK! I'm off to the dentist myself….
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Chris | December 15, 2010 at 5:05 am
So what does this mean? They voted on the rule, and now they vote on the bill, and if the bill passes, then what? They vote to decide whether it really passed or not?
When will whatever happens today translate to openly gay soldiers not being discharged?
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James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 5:05 am
OMG I thought that Heisman thing was a joke…lol really House, really?
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:06 am
Well, I guess DADT is sort of our side dish…or more accurately, Second Course.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:08 am
Etaname Beans (sp?) would be good. They can inconspicuously fit in your breast pocket, which can be replenished.
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Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 5:08 am
It will have to also pass the Senate and then be signed by Obama to become law. Also, It will so not go into effect immediately.
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Kate | December 15, 2010 at 5:09 am
I guess the Heisman winner must be straight.
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Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 5:09 am
Perhaps he is afraid of his own death or dismemberment when the Marines he is insulting by claiming that they are not professional enough to do their jobs come after him once DADT is repealed and they can invite EVERYONE in their units to bring their spouses to the "company" picnic, and they find out that we have the same domestic concerns that they have, and that General Amos is nothing more than a closet case who is jealous over not having his own partner.
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:12 am
With the vote? They agreed to have a one hour debate (only one hour) on the actual bill itself, and to allow no amendments to be attached to the bill.
Now they are deciding whether the US Government should spend its time congratulating sports players on winning major trophies (for which they do, it should be noted, already receive considerable congratulations). They seem to have decided that they should offer their congratulations. How nice of them.
Now they are going to vote on whether to congratulate Gerta Weisman Klein on receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom. One thinks that perhaps, there does not need to be a vote on these issues… And if the congress were to vote to SNUB Ms. Klein, who survived a forced march through Poland after capture by the Nazis during WW2, then I, for one, would never invite THEM to tea again. The Congress, I mean. I have already struck the Nazis off the invite list. Ms. Klein is welcome any time.
After that, we will hear a one hour debate, then the REAL DADT vote. I think.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:14 am
Our local City Council takes up half their public meeting time handing out stupid plaques to their supporters. It's such a waste of time. Total log-rolling.
Probably someone from that guy's state wants it to be in the paper that one of their own got a framed congrats from Capital Hill.
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nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 5:15 am
I still say we round up everyone in NOM, FRC, AFA, and those whose beliefs coincide with theirs — and ship them ALL to Uganda. We can trade as many
hatersanti-equality folks as we can round up for all the GLBT Ugandans who would like to come live here instead. They can even swap homes!121.
adambink | December 15, 2010 at 5:15 am
Actually, they do this a lot- congratulating Medal of Freedom winners, Nobel Prize winners, Heisman winners, people who land planes in the middle of the Hudson River, commemorating National Physician Assistant week, etc.
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:16 am
OH yes, they spend MOST of their time on this sort of crap. Earlier it was to vote some day in January as officially "Tom Smith" day (or whoever it was, I've already forgotten, as has everyone there in the House) who was some sort of activist. This is what we pay our elected leaders to do… come up with these live altering issues that concern so many people.
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adambink | December 15, 2010 at 5:16 am
It was a formality but a good step forward.
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Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 5:17 am
spitting water on keyboard LOL! actually kids love those!…along with sushi and anything anime…
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:18 am
Thank goodness, they voted unanimously NOT to snub Ms. Klein. I will go put on the kettle.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:18 am
My great great grandfather invented the lettered tab divider found in dictionaries.
Where's my parade?
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:19 am
OK… NOW the actual debate on the DADT bill starts, and in one hour they vote on it.
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nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 5:20 am
Of course he is. Only straight men play football, don'cha know?!
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nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 5:21 am
McCain threatened to filibuster the award back in your great great grandfather's day. Apparently, the threat is still on the table. =(
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:22 am
No – not until popcorn is done!
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nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 5:22 am
♫ I'm just a bill. Yes, I'm only a bill. And I'm sittin' here on Capitol Hill. ♫
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:23 am
Don't worry, Adam has got you covered.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:25 am
"I believe you’re thinking of Edamame beans (soy beans)."
Correct! Thank you.
I eat the pod part, too. Though I feel like a cow chewing their cud.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:26 am
"THE HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER!"
I think that every morning, after rolling out of bed and looking around…
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:28 am
Damn poopy-head!
Evil never sleeps….
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:29 am
The opposition just said "bling" instead of "bring".
Don't know if that's a good sign or not….
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:29 am
AAAAaaannd the Republicans are back to procedure. Deal with the SUBSTANCE.
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:30 am
Doesn't he look like a thinner Henry Kissinger, somewhat?
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:30 am
Buck Buck Buck – it's your own party's fault we don't have a National Defense Fund – just vote already and quit being an obstructionist.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:31 am
Buck Buck Buck – you vote to repeal now and then take time getting every duck in a row – or it gets done in the court and no ducky ducky ducky Buck!
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:33 am
McKeon is full of excrement. He was going on about the Armed Services Committee not having a go at this bill. They DID have it.
McKeon wants to wait till we are at peace and there is no potential for upcoming war to do this thing. Can we deploy HIM somewhere?
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Ed | December 15, 2010 at 5:33 am
Ca. Buck Mckeon is an idiot, sorry
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nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 5:34 am
Is "buck buck buck" the sound of a chicken, or are you referring to my
belovedgood-for-nothing Representative, Buck McKeon?Hmmm. I suppose it could be both…
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:34 am
I'm quite sure Marines can do more than 1 thing at once. Aren't they supposedly our elite?
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nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 5:34 am
Yeah… and he's my district's idiot. >.<
Don't blame me. Everyone in my house voted against the jerk…
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:35 am
Your good for nuttin rep. Buck Buck Buck – I have a dollar to get him to stop chatin'
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Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:35 am
Also….is there any assurance we will ever "be at peace", at this rate?
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Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 5:36 am
Am working very sincerely to not throw something at my screen. My more primitive nature just wants to administer what we called in the USAF "wall-to-wall counseling." (This is when you grab the one being counseled by the front of his shirt & slam him from one wall to the other until he realizes the error of his ways.)
149.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 5:36 am
How can they POSSIBLY think about killing someone if they're afraid a male is thinking lustful thoughts in their general direction?
I can't possibly roll my eyes enough.
150.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 5:38 am
He doesn't need money. He needs a soul.
151.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:38 am
lol – I can see it now – a marine running with his arms flailing around
"ewe ewe ewe, get him away, he looked at my…get him away from me…MOMMY."
152.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 5:38 am
In case it wasn't clear, the counseling would be given to all the Republicans who are speaking garbage in trying to prevent repeal.
153.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:39 am
It was a failed way of "the buck stops here" – popcorn high.
154.
anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:42 am
Pelosi just quoted todays ABC poll that says 1 in 8 Americans are ok with men and women who are openly gay and lesbian serving in the military.
1 in 8 people. i in 8.
155.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:42 am
Oh! Nice speach from Pelosi. And it's refreshing to hear someone correctly use the term "sexual orientation" amigst all this.
156.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 5:42 am
Joe Wilson proudly joins in "being concerned." LOL
157.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:45 am
Am I imagining it, or are the Democrats better public speakers?
158.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 5:45 am
Apparently all the Repubs have forgotten that THEY are the ones who prevented the Senate from dealing with anything until the Tax Cut bill was passed.
159.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 5:45 am
1 in 8? I didn't hear her say it. Didn't she mean 8 in 10?
160.
anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:46 am
The Arkansas speaker was lovely. Talking about how the world his children are growing up in is changing for the better.
161.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 5:46 am
Did Roscoe Bartlett just claim they didn't have time to pass the defense authorization bill? I thought the House already passed that ages ago.
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Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:47 am
These guys were earlier voting on whether or not to congratulate sports players – remove all of those stupid votes and repeal DADT and then take that extra time to deal with the national defense fund you dummies.
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anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:47 am
Err… that is what I meant… I typed in a hurry and am at work. Supposed to be doing other things… OOOPS.
8 in 10 Yay!!!
164.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:49 am
Akin looks a little like David Boies.
165.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 5:50 am
Did you try trading with Uganda? They would love to have him!
166.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:50 am
All the Republicans seem to be debating is the debate – they have no real reason to not repeal DADT – do they?
You are already taking the time, make a statement about DADT already.
167.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 5:51 am
Solar eclipse mumbo-jumbo?
Well, I guess Todd Akins' mindset IS back in the era of King Arthur's court.
168.
adambink | December 15, 2010 at 5:51 am
They did. Senate Republicans held it hostage.
169.
Mackenzie | December 15, 2010 at 5:52 am
not to be disrespectful but some of the House reps seem to be pretty dense. Do they even pay attention to what is going on around them?
170.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 5:53 am
That's what I thought. Maybe I misunderstood him, but I thought he was saying the House didn't have time to pass it.
171.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:53 am
They have absolutely no reason to NOT repeal DADT – so they are just using up their time. I guess.
172.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:56 am
Vote YES!
173.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 5:56 am
Awww — the poor things. They had to hold their breath until they turned blue. Naturally, there was some brain damage from all that oxygen deprivation.
174.
anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 5:56 am
Lamborn says the survey was flawed because it did not ask "should DADT be repealed?"
Which has been answered by ALL the top brass saying "We don't ask. We give orders, the servicepeople follow the orders. So the survey asked 'what do you think the impact would be' which gets to the point just as well."
Moron.
175.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:57 am
Lewis is very passionate! I am glad he is on our side.
176.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 5:57 am
Is ANY Democrat going to point out that it is the Repubs who prevented the Defense Bill from being passed?
177.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 5:58 am
That and again reiterate if it doesn't happen now, it will happen in the courts.
178.
adambink | December 15, 2010 at 5:59 am
Open predictions on the # in favor above, folks. Getting to 250 would be great.
179.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 6:00 am
Yes. That is Leonard Malkovich's headstone, I believe. One of our earliest proponents on letting LGBT people serve openly.
180.
anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 6:01 am
I would really like to see how Diaz-Balart votes… I somehow think he is going to vote for repeal.
181.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 6:02 am
UPS just told me we can get free shipping to Uganda on all of them if we include Tony Perkins and Steve LIvely in the package to be shipped.
182.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 6:03 am
Oh jeeze..who is this jackwagon?
183.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 6:03 am
Oops I mean on CSPAN not anyone here lol
184.
Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 6:03 am
To those going with the "now is not the time" argument:
We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was "well timed" in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation. For years now I have heard the word "Wait!" It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This "Wait" has almost always meant "Never." We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that "justice too long delayed is justice denied."
-Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from a Birmingham Jail"
185.
anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 6:04 am
He was a Marine who was skeered that some other Marine was gonna pinch his butt during a mission. Putz.
186.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:05 am
I got goosebumps reading that. No truer words written.
187.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 6:05 am
lol hes not even cute.
188.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 6:07 am
Do we need only a simple majority to pass the repeal in the House or is it a higher percentage?
189.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:07 am
Fleming says DADT has been working just fine. What planet has he been on?
190.
anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 6:08 am
They keep going back to "haven't done enough study".
I really have to stop listening for a while.
191.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 6:09 am
Yeah….it has worked fine for HIM not for the thousands of people discharged under this policy..many who were sought out for their homosexuality, not for their coming out on their own.
192.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 6:10 am
Is it just my overactive imagination or does it strike anyone else that half these guy seem like closet cases?
193.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 6:11 am
I'm sure it's been working fine for those straight (or closeted) service members who have been squeezing their eyes tight, putting their fingers in their ears, muttering "la la la there are only straight people here la la la" & pretending nobody around them is GLBT.
194.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:12 am
For the sake of my gay brothers and sisters – I surely hope not.
195.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 6:14 am
I am experiencing mood swings…how surreal if this doen't pass?
196.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 6:15 am
Point taken.
197.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:17 am
Hoyer must be following the Trial Tracker on his cell phone – just reiterated all the points we were making.
198.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 6:18 am
Where do you think the soaps get their ideas? They watch C-SPAN, then modify the events to fit the storyline of the soap.
199.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:20 am
I ♥ Steny Hoyer – I want to trade McCain for him!
200.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 6:20 am
And some garlic powder to keep the NOMbies away!
201.
fiona64 | December 15, 2010 at 6:20 am
I'll tell you what my soldier and sailor friends said about the Marines:
Muscles
Are
Required
Intelligence
Not
Essential
Love,
Fiona
202.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 6:21 am
Mr. Hoyer is one of the BEST speakers yet! His constituency must be very proud of him.
203.
anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 6:22 am
He could do worse in getting the opinion of the intelligent, well thought out people.
204.
anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 6:26 am
Oh dear… Gohmert. Make it stop… make it stop.
205.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 6:26 am
I like that the letter he read quoted someone who wasn't willing to go back into a closeted, higfh school environment.
Basically, someone's stance on this boils down to whether they're a grownup, or a little baby.
206.
Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 6:26 am
Perhaps this is what Rep. Hunter is picturing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0dWo31hwpI
207.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 6:27 am
What a hick. He needs a corncob pipe and a hound dog….
208.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 6:27 am
Yes..I'm so sure he has heard that from hundreds of people saying they won't re-enlist. I really don't like this guy.
209.
anonygrl | December 15, 2010 at 6:29 am
They started this one hour debate one hour and ten minutes ago. When are we done?
210.
adambink | December 15, 2010 at 6:29 am
Ha. Love it. Actually, I know for a fact that some members read P8TT and my home blog, OpenLeft.com.
211.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 6:31 am
Can I help? I would love to administer some of that counseling to our own chickens**t Senator Richard Burr!
212.
celdd | December 15, 2010 at 6:31 am
Yes, that's consistent with my experience with him. My daughter married her girlfriend on the last day you could. I ordered a flag from his office to commerate them, (and also as a test for the Representative). Every time I checked the status they would call up the order and said everything was fine, it's in the mail, etc., but never received the flag. I gave up after several months as I had my answer.
213.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:33 am
You tell them Barney : )
214.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 6:33 am
Please don't condemn an innocent hound dog to a life with such an ignorant bigot like Gohmert.
215.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 6:37 am
I really hate the term "lifestyle choice". If people only knew what it was like…it frustrates me SOOO much.
216.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 6:39 am
I think the clock only runs when they're doing their speeches. All the yielding of minutes and permission to yield time doesn't count.
217.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 6:40 am
And wasn't the survey anonymous? Why is he saying these soldiers are having to sneak over to him to voice their true feelings?
If they want to go…they should go.
Let them get jobs as mall security guards somewhere.
218.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 6:40 am
Richard, I would be honored to be your co-counselor.
219.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 6:41 am
It's a ridiculous term in this context. There are many things about my lifestyle that I choose; my sexual orientation is not one of them.
220.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 6:41 am
And from the pictures I have seen of him, General Amos no longer has the muscles that are required. Maybe that is why he is so afraid of allowing open LGBT members in the Marines. He is afraid that one of them who actually goes to the gym might cart him off to fulfill his fantasies. Either that or he is afraid that they will tell him they don't want him!
221.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:42 am
After you deal with your chickens, come to Arizona – we have some wild ducks that needs dealing with.
222.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 6:44 am
Remember, Cookie, Repubs have no problem rewriting history, including very recent history like the survey being anonymous.
223.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:44 am
It is actually ridiculous to think that anyone would choose to be gay, bisexual or transgendered – simply idiotic.
224.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 6:45 am
Loretta Sanchez – a voice of reason from behind the orange curtain.
225.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 6:48 am
Actually, I had no intentions of letting McLame make it back to Arizona before beginning his counseling sessions. I thought we would conduct those in Washington, DC.
226.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 6:48 am
I think Richard was not referring to chickens, but using an organic output of chickens as an adjective to describe his Senator, Mr. Burr.
227.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 6:49 am
It's very strange that we have this military force putting their live at risk as it goes off to "bring liberty" to the rest of the world….and its soldiers don't enjoy personal liberty, themselves.
Weird.
228.
Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 6:50 am
"Homosexuality is a choice! That is a choice people make, to…engage…in this…deliciously decadent lifestyle!"
-David Cross, using a faux preacher voice
229.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:51 am
Even better Richard – keep him far away from the state – but can you lure Gov. Brewer to Washington too? She's one of our duckies.
230.
adambink | December 15, 2010 at 6:51 am
Hey all, Courage will have a special announcement after the vote for you all. Stay tuned for a new post.
231.
Sheryl Carver | December 15, 2010 at 6:52 am
This is like watching a football game. It takes 3 hours or more to play a 1-hour game.
232.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 6:52 am
Oh! That Jay guy from Washington is boisterous and punchy! And I like the dignified guy with the beard talking about "the back of the bus".
233.
Ed | December 15, 2010 at 6:52 am
Rep Al Green from houston absolutely nailed it!!
234.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 6:53 am
Oh goody…wonder what it is?
235.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:53 am
Is is about the 9th circuit court? (just hoping)
236.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 6:53 am
Why do they keep going on about the Marines, when they're just a small percentage of the military?
237.
Ed | December 15, 2010 at 6:55 am
so its now?? 15 min?
238.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 6:55 am
15 minute vote – here we go.
239.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 6:56 am
*Crosses fingers*
240.
Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 6:57 am
I see it in terms of integrity and discrimination, myself. There will be some amount of personal freedom curtailed in an organization like the military, but DADT directly compromises the integrity of LGBT troops, and discriminates against them.
241.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 6:57 am
Maybe my great great grandfather is at last getting that plaque??
(see 12:21 pm)
242.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 6:58 am
Because their head is so very anti-repeal. They're the roughest, toughest branch — so many people seem to think they don't have gay men (and that they don't want them).
Once DADT is repealed, I will be curious to find out if there's a roughly equal percentage of GLBTs in each branch, or if there are significant differences.
243.
Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 6:58 am
The bill will pass, it's just a question of how much positive impact, if any, it will have on the Senate. Not that it isn't a great thing in and of itself, mind you!
244.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 6:58 am
I heart her.
245.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 6:59 am
Wow…that's exactly what I was hoping too.
246.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 7:00 am
The repugs seem stumped….their votes are tricking in way slower.
Do they have to call their mommies?
247.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 7:00 am
How about a plushie in the form of a hound dog?
248.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 7:01 am
Perhaps they are waiting for their puppeteers to tell them how to vote?
249.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 7:03 am
Special Event eh? Got me quite curious.
250.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 7:06 am
This matter doesn't directly affect me (though I have a couple of gay friends who would might re-enlist) — yet I'm sitting here with an elevated heart rate and with my heart in my throat.
*crosses fingers*
*crosses ankles for good measure*
251.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 7:06 am
Do they need a 2/3 vote here? Or just a majority vote?
252.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 7:06 am
Ooops….so in these remaining minutes, aside from the president certifying it or whatever…the other step is getting it through the senate? What leverage do we have, there?
253.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 7:07 am
My cat is on my lap, her paws are crossed too!
254.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 7:08 am
In the Senate, it's S.4023 – the bill we've been advocating for here for the last week of so.
255.
Andrew_SEA | December 15, 2010 at 7:09 am
It is disconcerting that not even ONE Republican said anything affirming this at all.
Not ONE!
They approve of discrimination?
256.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 7:11 am
Yet there are 7 Republicans voting YEA on it – so far
257.
Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 7:12 am
To my knowledge, it's just simple majority.
258.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 7:14 am
Oooh – please scratch her behind the ears for me (if she likes that). =^..^=
259.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 7:14 am
15 minute time clock is done 0:00 but they are still voting?
260.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 7:15 am
Cookie coupons, maybe???????
261.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 7:15 am
Most of them do, yes. Some of the ones who don't will pretend that they do because they know it's the only way they'll keep their cushy job if their constituents are a bunch of red-necked hicks.
262.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 7:15 am
YAY!!!!! Its passed!
263.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 7:16 am
She loves it! She's an old kitten – 18 human years.
264.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 7:16 am
How long now before the Senate takes up their vote?
265.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 7:16 am
Even if all the leftover votes were nay we Yea still has a majority. Sweet!
266.
Randy | December 15, 2010 at 7:18 am
It's passed!! Yay!!
267.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 7:18 am
Kittehs rock. We have 6 of them. =)
268.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 7:19 am
Hallelujah!
Now for the Senate. *sigh*
269.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 7:19 am
Sooooo…..what's it all mean?
270.
James Tuttle | December 15, 2010 at 7:21 am
More good News, Senator Olympia Snowe has pledged her support for repeal of DADT.
271.
Elizabeth Oakes | December 15, 2010 at 7:21 am
Woot. Now call your Senator.
272.
Lesbians Love Boies | December 15, 2010 at 7:22 am
I was just reading that – Great news.
273.
Rhie | December 15, 2010 at 7:25 am
Yup. Now they can go home and blame the Senate.
274.
Carpool Cookie | December 15, 2010 at 7:26 am
Well, I certainly think her name is appropriately glamorous to come over to our side…
"Ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming, Madam Olympia Snowe…."[/i]
275.
Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 7:26 am
OK, that's MAJOR good news.
276.
Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 7:28 am
The bill passes 250-175 with 9 not voting. Great news. It got 16 more votes than in May, with 10 more Republicans voting yea.
Cram that one down your throat, Tony Perkins.
277.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 7:30 am
Yes!
278.
Elizabeth Oakes | December 15, 2010 at 7:31 am
*naughty giggle at you, SA*
279.
Elizabeth Oakes | December 15, 2010 at 7:36 am
So maybe we won't have marriage equality by the end of the year, but we might get DADT repealed for Christmas. Thank you Santa and Dan Choi (whom we all hope is recovering speedily.)
280.
Andrew_SEA | December 15, 2010 at 7:38 am
He can't… it's not polite when your mouth is already full!
281.
gregory in salt lake | December 15, 2010 at 7:40 am
Woot!!!!!!
282.
Bob | December 15, 2010 at 7:45 am
wow, what a ride, woot woot to America,,,, from my igloo,,, if I do move to America, I want that job in the house, the one where the person gets to bang the hammer, and tell everyone to get the hous in order……thud, thud,,, thud,,,,
the first step in the hail mary pass……
Hail Mary mother of god, bless us sinners now and in the hour of our need Amen…
I think it's so cool that our prayer could be to the first woman ever in recorded history, to listen to an innner voice asking her to do something very untraditional, using other means to become pregnant, without allowing her body to be penetrated by a male penis, she was one brilliant woman that Mary, seizing the moment with a resonding and celbatory YES, giving birth for the first time ever without putting obvious body parts together, conceiving a male child,, and changing humankind forever..
tto bad the focus was on the male child, he did all he could to honor that place in history,
Hail Mary, the mother of the God who religious bigots idolize falsely……… it took a yes vote from a woman to alter the course of humanity……..
283.
Michelle Evans | December 15, 2010 at 7:46 am
OMG! I called Campbell's office and was told that he actually voted in favor of DADT repeal!! I think he's been taken over by a pod person. This is not the Campbell I've ever dealt with. Maybe there is hope in this universe after all.
284.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 7:53 am
That's fantastic news!!
285.
Bob | December 15, 2010 at 7:56 am
Michelle, I was thinking of you through this process, I think I only heard reference to transgendered once, and that was in the rightful context of using the term LGBT service members…….. I heard that,,,,
286.
celdd | December 15, 2010 at 8:03 am
I was floored when I saw he voted in favor! I called his office and said Thank You!
287.
adambink | December 15, 2010 at 8:06 am
Everyone, we're hosting a nationwide conference call with Rep. Patrick Murphy tonight at 4 PM PST/7 PM EST. You can get the call-in number via below.
http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/UrgentDADTC…
288.
Michelle Evans | December 15, 2010 at 8:09 am
Bob, Thank you for thinking of me–and all transgender service members past, present, and future. Even with the repeal of DADT actually being within reach for gays and lesbians, any of us trans people will still have to wait probably a very, very long time into the future to be included in being able to serve our country openly.
I absolutely hail the way things are going, but if this repeal finally comes to pass with no trans inclusion (which is does not), then any pressure to do so at pretty much anytime in the future will be nonexistent. I doubt I will live long enough to see that ever happen once my LGB friends have their full rights.
289.
celdd | December 15, 2010 at 8:12 am
It would be great if Harry Reid could visit him in the hospital and give him his ring back.
290.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 10:52 am
Can we pack her in the UPS box to Uganda? Because to be honest, I really do not want that imitation human being on US soil!
291.
Richard A. Jernigan | December 15, 2010 at 10:58 am
My first husband was a Marine. And I am quite certain that he is spinning in his grave wanting to get hold of General Amos and shake some sense into him.
292.
Kathlene | December 15, 2010 at 11:07 am
That would have been AMAZING.
293.
Kathlene | December 15, 2010 at 11:10 am
Both of those points need to be made more often.
294.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 11:10 am
Well, it seems I may have an opportunity tomorrow when I call to thank him. It appears that hell has frozen over… because he voted for repeal!!
295.
Sagesse | December 15, 2010 at 11:21 am
I was thinking the same thing.
296.
Kathlene | December 15, 2010 at 11:33 am
10 Republicans? Color me shocked.
297.
Kathleen | December 15, 2010 at 11:57 am
10 more than in May. Total 15.
298.
nightshayde | December 15, 2010 at 12:18 pm
I believe you’re thinking of Edamame beans (soy beans). I have some in my lunch box. =)
I’m eating Maple & Brown Sugar Oatmeal right now. It’s much stealthier than some other options.
299.
Straight Ally #3008 | December 15, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Amazing image!
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301.
Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 10:34 pm
There were a few amazing votes…lets hope this trend continues in the senate!
302.
Gregory in Salt Lake | December 15, 2010 at 11:09 pm
"conjunction junction what's your function… " too funny…haven't thought of schoolhouse rock for about 20 years!….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ
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