Are you an anti-LGBT conservative? Are you worried about people questioning your role in anti-LGBT bullying? Then this piece is for you.

October 5, 2010

Cross-posted on my home blog, OpenLeft.com

By Adam Bink

So I just finished reading conservative radio host (among other distasteful characteristics) Chuck Colson and his special commentary on the recent LGBT suicides (courtesy of Jeremy’s clip). I’ve been reading commentary from folks like NOM’s Maggie Gallagher, The Washington Post’s (and now CNN’s) Kathleen Parker, Colson and others more than I usually do, mostly because I’m curious how conservatives, especially homophobes, respond to some of the most tragic of events, events that are driven in part by similar rhetoric to what they use.

And it’s funny, because I’ve noticed a remarkably similar rhetoric by all of them. It’s like they’re all reading the same talking points (and they probably are). So if you’re an aspiring anti-LGBT conservative reading this blog (hi, Louis! hi, Thomas!), here’s a free recipe for a good conservative anti-equality response to such news:

How to make a conservative, anti-equality response to LGBT suicides without sounding like a pro-gay liberal

1 teaspoon each of the words “tragic” “appalling” and “heartbreaking”.  Optional substitutions: “terrible” or “sad”. This will emphasize that you really do have a heart.

1/4 cup of compulsory “bullying is wrong”. Here’s Colson:

First, we must absolutely, positively condemn harassment and bullying in all of their ugly forms.

1/2 cup of trying to show that LGBT kids aren’t especially targeted.

Here’s Kathleen Parker:

Although Clementi was filmed with another man, one can imagine as easily a roommate spying on a heterosexual encounter.

Here’s Colson:

Cyber bullying is an equal-opportunity crime.

Here’s Maggie:

…the cruelty of cyberbullying is causing teen suicides among those who are not gay, as well.

1 quart of “social media is really the problem, here- not homophobic kids or where they get their homophobia from.”

Here’s Parker (after discussing social media):

I don’t want to downplay the gay aspect of this travesty, but there isn’t space in a column to tackle everything.

Here’s Colson:

Teenagers have always intimidated and harassed other teenagers. And now with the advent of social media—Facebook, Myspace, Twitter—young people have a new way to abuse and torment each other. It’s called cyber bullying.

2 tablespoons of “Yes, bullying is bad, but it’s just a couple of bad apples- it has nothing to do with gay rights, homophobia or our national debate over such issues.” Here’s Maggie:

Nothing in the press accounts suggest the kids who did this were motivated by homophobia… I do not think the absence of gay marriage is the cause of these tragedies or its presence will resolve them.

Mix well, and voilà! You have a boilerplate written column, radio interview, or TV appearance to show you’re not like those mean bullies who listen or whose adults in their lives listen to your anti-LGBT rhetoric and then take it out on those who are second-class.

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  • 1. Kathleen  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:18 am

    subscribing

  • 2. Ann S.  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:19 am

    It's a different recipe I'm trying for dinner tonight. This one doesn't sound too appetizing to me.

  • 3. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:20 am

    Scrubbing

  • 4. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:22 am

    Can I add some jeremiah weed sweet tea vodka and lemonade?

  • 5. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:24 am

    Well written and oh so sad :-(

  • 6. Ann S.  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Mmm, yes.

  • 7. Ronnie  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:27 am

    That's not your Mother's stew right there…well maybe it is Maggie's mother's stew…But my mom's stews is hearty & filled with lots of love….<3…Ronnie

  • 8. Anonygrl  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:30 am

    And is, no doubt, a recipe worth sharing, Ronnie!

  • 9. Gregory in Salt Lake  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Big sigh :( time to log off for a bit…sometimes too much….. Later everyone.

  • 10. Sagesse  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:40 am

    I'm going to see if I can watch Brian Brown being put in his place at the New Yorker conference. It would cheer me up. If it's not available in Canada, I'll be back sooner.

  • 11. Rhie  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:41 am

    Heh, I like it. It's true, unfortunately.

  • 12. Luke  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:49 am

    I want to head butt those conservatives and say grow up, you are on the wrong side of history and the sooner you realize it the less stupid you will look.

  • 13. Alan E  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:49 am

    Prepping for surgery.

  • 14. Rhie  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:50 am

    Maybe that's why Mom's stews had such good results on cold…the love and caring mixed in :)

    The one above, on the other hand, would cause severe indigestion.

  • 15. Kate  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:50 am

    That stupidity ship has sailed.

  • 16. Chris B  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:59 am

    The kids were bullied and called 'sissy', 'fag', 'fairy', etc. in school, but they say "…Nothing in the press accounts suggest the kids who did this were motivated by homophobia…".

    Are these people complete idiots?

    #!$##$ MY #!$#@!**# , ###^#^&^%!!!!!!!!!!!

    (apologies for my obscenity)

    If being gay is "curable", as these people claim, then what's the worry if kids dabble in it? Seriously. They teach kids abstinence only, but if the kids fall in to temptation, well then they just move on and get over it. Why can't it be the same with homosexuality? Lots of people dabble in it, but having sex with a person of the same sex is not the same thing as being a homosexual, the same way that having sex with a person of the opposite sex makes a person heterosexual (how many closeted gay people are in sham marriages and have never had sex with a person of the same sex? or what about those men in prison?)

    I could go out tomorrow and have sex with a woman, but that wouldn't automatically make me straight, would it? A straight man could go out and have sex with another man, but that wouldn't suddenly make him gay, would it? Homosexuality is more than just sex. It's a deep emotional attraction, as well as a sexual attraction. I really hate how homosexuality is reduced to one specific sex act.

    Sorry for that rant, but these people are really making me angry.

  • 17. John B.  |  October 5, 2010 at 10:02 am

    You're engaging in out-of-context quoting, something our opponents are inordinately fond of. In particular I think you're being a bit unfair to Kathleen Parker, especially in lumping her in with a virulent homophobe like Maggie Gallagher. I certainly don't agree with everything Ms. Parker writes but she strikes me as somebody who actually thinks before she writes or speaks and to her credit, occasionally disagrees with or even criticizes her fellow conservatives. Is she a homophobe? I can't say for sure but in addition to reading her entire column (not just the two excerpted sentences) you might also want to check out her somewhat surprising comments on same-sex marriage in this online chat: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/disc…

  • 18. Jonathan H  |  October 5, 2010 at 10:22 am

    Can't think of an interesting way to say I'm subscribing.

  • 19. bluprntguy  |  October 5, 2010 at 10:57 am

    John, I think you like what Kathleen says at the end of her response, and as a result, you just ignore all the offensive things she says while getting there:

    Kathleen Parker: "I care only about what kind of society we provide children, adults are on their own"

    I guess we can now limit anti-discrimination laws to apply only to children: "The Negro kids are now allowed to sit at the lunch counter, but their parents will need to sit on the floor." This is absolute bullsh*t. No one with half a brain thinks that laws should only protect the children in society. This is called "actually thinking" in your book?

    Kathleen Parker "For me, it has never been about rights for adults, but about the meaning and purpose of marriage as it benefits society and children."

    Supreme Court: "Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man…" I could go on to cite a few more Supreme Court rulings giving marriage rights to convicted child molesters, rapists, murderers, and deadbeat dads that don't pay child support. I guess allowing those people to marry somehow benefits society and children in Kathleen's world, but allowing two law abiding women (that may already be raising children) to marry is harmful. Does this qualify as thinking?

    Kathleen Parker: "I have not favored same-sex marriage, but the reasons are complex"

    Well, I don't really think the reasons are complex. In her 11 line response that you have cited, most of what I've already quoted above, she makes it quite clear that her "reasons" are just that she doesn't like gay people and thinks that they should be denied the right to get married because they really just aren't worth it.

  • 20. bluprntguy  |  October 5, 2010 at 10:58 am

    Yeah, I think it's going around tonight…

  • 21. Phil L  |  October 5, 2010 at 11:02 am

    I… think that I'll just eat some brownies instead. They may be fattening and bad for me but at least they won't make me vomit profusely.

  • 22. Carol  |  October 5, 2010 at 11:11 am

    While it's true that the most recent spate of suicides were all gay children or youth, those of Megan Meier and Phoebe Prince after being bullied by adults or peers were not. Oversimplification and overgeneralization are unhelpful to thoughtful analysis.

  • 23. Richard A. Walter (s  |  October 5, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Will try to catch up later.

  • 24. Bill  |  October 5, 2010 at 11:37 am

    News is breaking about another gay teen suicide. THis one, out of Utah.

    My heart is breaking. Have we as gay citizens failed these children? I am so confused. I thought things were getting better. I am numb.
    http://www.dallasvoice.com/gay-teen-suicide-10471…

  • 25. Ronnie  |  October 5, 2010 at 11:56 am

    KKK PLANS PROTEST FOR ANTI-GAY STUDENT JENNIFER KEETON
    http://www.towleroad.com/2010/10/kkk-plans-protes…

    If you remember this is the same repugnant chick who refused to abide by medical licensing requirements, academic requirements for graduation, & ethical requirements because she refuses to counsel LGBT teens/kids

    NOM has come to her defense, FotF has come to her defense, FRC has come to her defense, The WBC has come to her defense & now the KKK has jumped into the mix…..

    Wow NOM you really are filling your table with peaches & cream aren't you……

    ; ) …..Ronnie

  • 26. Sean  |  October 5, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    I love how you spun the comment about providing children with a better society into something racist and discriminatory. That's what all you leftists do is just babble until the other person feels like an *sshole. I'm a conservative and I support the right for gays to marry. But that's beside the point. Parker is stating that cyber-bullying is something that's affecting America's CHILDREN in this day and age and wants to focus on cracking down on this issue to keep them safer. I've heard zero stories about Todd, the 40 year-old married man who got cyber-bullied about his divorce on Facebook and killed himself. The reason she's leaving adults out of the picture is because they are mature and can handle themselves, in cases pertaining to bullies. Don't spin it into something hateful and discriminatory and keep talking in circles. Take the comment AS IT IS; a statement about the dangerous society children are entering due to the simplicities of cyber-bullying. That's what I call "actually thinking". I ACTUALLY read the comment and ACTUALLY thought about what it meant, instead of assuming she meant it in all cases.

  • 27. Bill  |  October 5, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Yup.

    'Cuz nothing tells the world you're qualified to be a therapist more than having the official backing of the KKK.

    The world has gone mad.

    Seriously, mad.

  • 28. Bill  |  October 5, 2010 at 12:48 pm

    That was to you, Ronnie.

  • 29. Michael  |  October 5, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Shrill anti-gay activists (such as Maggie) are so busily trying to wash their hands of any responsibility in this that they try to place the focus on anything EXCEPT the homophobia–the climate of intolerance they help perpetuate–which allows tragedies like this to happen.

    The issue for LGBT youth is not "cyber-bulling." The issue is anti-gay bullying and a culture which allows it to happen, ignores it, supports it, nurtures it and creates the right environment for it.

    This man did not jump off a bridge just because his sexual act was filmed and broadcast on the internet. He committed suicide, because the idea of everyone finding out that he was gay in this manner was so negatively overpowering that he could see no other path but killing himself.

    The intolerance in America that would cause any human being to commit suicide rather than be known as "gay," is THE problem. And all the people you list above are part of this problem. The only solution is that they renounce homophobia and stop nurturing it. Or that society evolves to the point where such words and bullying is socially unacceptable. We can see which is going to happen first–the question is how many more people have to die before we get there?

  • 30. Bob  |  October 5, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    RIP Alec yes I think he should be added to the list,,,,,, and hopfully someone will do some inquiry, I agree, many families would rather hide the issues of orientation, (if there were any) and anyway we're inclusive , right, it's still a dead teen, WHY?????

  • 31. Kathleen  |  October 5, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    LOL.

  • 32. Joel  |  October 5, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Is that Jeremiah weed, sweet tea, vodka and lemonade? Or Jeremiah, weed, sweet tea, vodka and lemonade? Or am I being presumptuous in adding commas where none were intended? ;)

  • 33. celdd  |  October 5, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Well said!

  • 34. Anonygrl  |  October 5, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Any news about the little bus that couldn't?

  • 35. Kathleen  |  October 5, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    Nothing that I've heard.

  • 36. Kathleen  |  October 5, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    They just tweeted this:
    A wonderful, inspiring final stop of the night! Excited to complete our last day of the #votabus tour tmmrw! See you then!

    I don't know what wonderful place they stopped. They weren't inspired to announce it on their site.

  • 37. Anonygrl  |  October 5, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    They probably stopped at a wonderful, inspiring Taco Bell for dinner.

  • 38. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    LOL Joel, only two ingredients…Jeremiah Weed Sweet Tea and Lemonade

  • 39. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    Introducing The Gay Men's Chorus of South Florida – their third rehearsal preparing for the holiday concert in December…

    Something to smile about!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7E7JTtYsBY

  • 40. Straight Ally #3008  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Religious Right: Sure, we're called them unnatural, deviant, sinful, evil, predatory, dangerous, and hellbound for decades…but what do these suicides have to do with us?

    Their blood is on your hands, you monsters.

  • 41. Carpool Cookie  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    What an interesting item for Keeton to add to her resume (!)

    "In 2010, the Ku-Klux Klan staged a protest in my behalf…"[/i]

  • 42. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    I can't curse, it's a disease I have…

    Fiercely anti-gay church's lawyer in Supreme Court

    One thing Al Snyder wants to make clear: His son, a soldier in Iraq, fought and died for freedom, but not for the right of some "wackos" to spew hate at soldiers' funerals under the protection of the US Constitution.

    Yet more than four years after the death of his only son, Matthew, Snyder is in the middle of a Supreme Court case that raises almost precisely that issue.

    "It's an insult to myself, my family and the veterans to say this is what our military men and women died for," Snyder says, barely concealing his anger.

    The court is set to decide whether members of a fundamentalist church in Kansas who picketed Matthew's funeral with signs bearing anti-gay and anti-Catholic invective have a constitutional right to say what they want.

    Or, in intruding on a private citizen's funeral in a hurtful way, have the protesters crossed a line and given Snyder the right to collect millions of dollars for the emotional pain they caused?

    http://www.3news.co.nz/Fiercely-anti-gay-churchs-…

  • 43. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    It's really boring when facebook is down…but then there is twitter and watching #facebook users freak out.

  • 44. Straight Ally #3008  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    I wasn't going to post this, but the recent suicides have gotten me riled up. Brutal parody from last year that's chillingly timely now.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9JZ9ONaCec

  • 45. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    8,142 new tweets in one minute…lol

  • 46. Kathleen  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    wow. I didn't realize fb was down. Now I'm upset about it.

  • 47. Straight Ally #3008  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    My feeling is that the WBC's actions rise to the level of verbal assault, and thus exceed the boundaries of free speech. At the very least there should be some sort of disturbing the peace issue; it's not what they're saying, it's that they're effectively harassing people at a solemn private function.

  • 48. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Watch the twitter feed for #facebook Kathleen, you won't need to do sit ups for a year…my gut hurts from laughing.

  • 49. Ronnie  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    Is that what's going on?….I thought my ethernet cable was going wonky again….then i thought it was the rapture…but your's sounds more accurate… ; ) …..Ronnie

  • 50. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:53 pm

    I watched a program on the history channel last night about the brain and psychopaths…I truly believe the Westboro church members and NOM have some brain disorder.

  • 51. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    In case anyone else wants to quit doing sit ups…
    http://twitter.com/#search?q=facebook

  • 52. Kathleen  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    it's hilarious in several languages. sadly, I think fb is back up.

  • 53. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    durn, it's back

  • 54. Straight Ally #3008  |  October 5, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    LLB, have you read Nate Phelps's account of the physical and psychological abuse he and others suffered at the hands of his father? Fred Phelps is clearly mentally ill.
    http://www.natephelps.com/

    I honestly think that NOM are a bunch of cynical opportunists who know they can milk homophobia for funds for many, many years, never mind that they are on the wrong side of history and will be remembered as such. Both the WBC and NOM are contemptible, but for different reasons. I find it amusing that (I assume) NOM would protest that they're very different from the WBC.

  • 55. Carpool Cookie  |  October 5, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    I don't know how "virulent" a threat Ms. Parker is, but her article is certainly empty-headed. (The posts over there with people calling her on it are pretty priceless.)

    And she sounds like an apologist when she writes, "Although Clementi was filmed with another man, one can imagine as easily a roommate spying on a heterosexual encounter."

    Really? "As easily"?

    The encounter was broadcast in order to harm and humiliate someone. You'd have to have a pretty extraordinary scenario to pin the same intent on a straight male roommate broadcasting an encounter between another straight male roommate…and a straight girl?

    And in that case, would the guy have jumped to his death after the broadcast?

    No, dear, not [i]quite[/i] the same.

  • 56. Carpool Cookie  |  October 5, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    It's interesting that — with a few exceptions — the general public, the bikers clubs and the military weren't too upset or involved when the Westboro Baptist Church was harassing gay funerals.

    Maybe they should have tried to nip it in the bud when it was happening to their neighbors, and they wouldn't have it happening to themselves, now?

  • 57. Elizabeth Oakes  |  October 5, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    I'm not sure it qualifies as assault if a threat isn't made. I didn't read about the original court decision; did the judge rule it was intentional infliction of emotional distress, and was that the basis for the award? If so, the question might be whether the speech used was intended as political/religious and covered by the Constitution.

    Sadly, I think the Phelpses will win, but not because Margie Phelps is a crack attorney.

    As for being sociopaths LLB, it's known that Fred Phelps fits the mold to a tee–a liar, paranoiac, ethics violations, beat and whipped his kids until they bled. You can read his "escaped" son's speech about Growing Up Phelps here: http://www.atheistnexus.org/page/nate-phelps-2009…

    Talk about the "chain of abuse." WBC comprises a family that has literally beaten itself into abusive zombies, now trying to beat up others with every sick abusive strategy that was used to destroy their own minds. It's sad ultimately, though I still hope the Supreme Court puts them out of business.

  • 58. Rhie  |  October 5, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    If you want people to take anything you say seriously don't start with over-generalization like "that's what all you leftists do". There isn't any one thing all leftists do or believe or say.

    Bluprntguy interpreted Kathleen's arguments differently than you did. That happens. Try addressing his reasoning without insulting 99% of this website.

  • 59. Elizabeth Oakes  |  October 5, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    Whoops, sorry SA#3008, didn't reload the page to see your comment before I posted mine. It's the same speech about Fred Phelps, folks–my bad.

  • 60. RebeccaRGB  |  October 5, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    The wall is coming down, brick by brick. With every struck-down law, every cease-and-desist order from an artist, every failed tour stop, every teen suicide, every KKK endorsement, another brick falls out. Brick by brick, the wall is coming down.

  • 61. Carpool Cookie  |  October 5, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    As we've noted, 2010 is shaping up as a turning point in history!

    I wish the teens who were in trouble could see that…

  • 62. Sean S  |  October 5, 2010 at 7:54 pm

    "And in that case, would the guy have jumped to his death after the broadcast?"

    I think that's the real tell here. I can conceive of someone broadcasting his straight roommate having sex as a prank. But "People spied on me having sex" is not a common reason to commit suicide. "I've just been outed in the worst possible way." is definitely a reason that people commit suicide, and that's entirely about prejudice against gays. So yeah, "the gay aspect of this travesty" is the whole reason that there's a travesty to begin with. For Parker not to acknowledge that is a crass denial of what's happened.

  • 63. Sean S  |  October 5, 2010 at 8:03 pm

    To other Sean: 1) "That’s what all you leftists do is just babble until the other person feels like an *sshole." Based on the way you present yourself, I expect that this probably happens to you a lot, and if so, that feeling you're having is completely accurate.

    2) The "children" comment being criticized was a comment about same-sex marriage, not cyber-bullying. So your bit about children vs. adults being the victims of bullying is completely irrelevant. Did you follow any of the links and read the whole discussion? Why do people come out swinging like that when they don't even understand what's being discussed? You might have had a point if you'd had the patience to stop and think a moment.

  • 64. Sean S  |  October 5, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    The WBC are awful people, but I would be astounded if they won this case. If Neo-Nazis are allowed to hold parades, the WBC can stand around protesting gays. The one exception I can see would be if they were so close to the event that they were effectively harassing people coming and going (or becoming a nuisance to those present during the funeral). But if they were across/down the street, there's not much that can be done about it.

  • 65. Papa Foma  |  October 5, 2010 at 9:18 pm

    I have noticed that the H8ter recipe employs far too much synonym for my taste when referring to anti-LGBT hate. 'Pro-marriage', 'Family Values', etc. In fact what with the 'Procreative Functions', and Irresponsible Procreation' and 'Channeled Function', it all seems like they are just spewing a huge wad of neologism all over the place! With their overuse of illogical somersaults, I gotta say the whole smörgåsbord of crap they put out just leaves a bad taste in my mouth!

    Felyx

    "Recipes made with love may not always come out that well, but those made with hate are sure to fail!"<i />

  • 66. Chris B  |  October 5, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    @Straight Ally 2008

    Thanks for the link to: http://www.natephelps.com/

    I read some of his story and if I had any doubts about Fred Phelps before, I don't have any now that he is a deeply mentally disturbed man.

    I feel so sorry for his wife and kids who were trapped in his violent, abusive world. Unfortunately, what can anyone do against someone who is so pathologically disturbed and evil and holds their victims in fear? This man should have been locked away years ago for child abuse, spousal abuse, etc.

  • 67. John B.  |  October 5, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    bluprntguy, it's amazing how we can read the exact same thing and come to completely different conclusions about it. You don't see that she's outlining her thought process to show how and why she's come to change her mind on the subject? You don't find any glimmer of hope in that?

    isn't this whole thing about changing people's hearts and minds? We are so, so close to the tipping point when we no longer have to worry about a majority voting to take away our civil rights. In part that's because there are conservatives, like Kathleen Parker, who are making their way–slowly and painfully, and rarely gracefully–to our side. We should be encouraging and cultivating such people as potential allies, not attacking them when they fail to see everything and every issue through the prism of being gay, or to agree with us on every issue.

  • 68. ChrisB  |  October 6, 2010 at 12:06 am

    Man, there is an italics close tag missing somewhere up the chain.

    That is all.

  • 69. adambink  |  October 6, 2010 at 12:31 am

    Okay, so give me the in-context quotation. I think you'll find she's making the same argument as the others. While Kathleen has this veneer of "moderate conservatism", rightly or wrongly deserved, she is tacking to the same line as everyone else.

  • 70. Bennett  |  October 6, 2010 at 3:35 am

    Yeah, the wheels on the bus went round and round, all through the town.

  • 71. Lesbians Love Boies  |  October 6, 2010 at 3:37 am

    Bennett, I think I also heard that little piggy squealing all the way home too.

  • 72. Bennett  |  October 6, 2010 at 3:38 am

    I think Michael's question "how many more people have to die?" is a very powerful question. Make it a "talking point."

  • 73. Reformed Conservativ  |  October 6, 2010 at 3:52 am

    Bob Jones University sent a letter to its gay alumni warning them that they would be subject to arrest for trespassing if they were to return to campus.

    Guess what, the man of the hour, Phred Phelps himself, attended Bob Jones University. I wonder if he received such a letter.

    Caveat: Bob Jones University now allows gays to visit the Art Gallery, which is within the university campus, so as to continue to be eligilbe for a tax exempt status.

    As a graduate, you can be sure my name is not "Reformed Conservative." I love the artist series programs to much to get banned for life.

  • 74. Ann S.  |  October 6, 2010 at 4:23 am

    How do they know who the gay alumni are?

  • 75. Reformed Conservativ  |  October 6, 2010 at 4:30 am

    Ann, the comments about BJU cover more than a decade and Phelps history with the institution pre dates the current Phelps notoriety. I am really not sure how they know, but public participation in pro GLBT events would be a possibility. Phelp attendance isnt widely known as he doesnt make a big deal about it and they are not particularly proud of him. However, there is an association that needs to be known.

  • 76. Bob  |  October 6, 2010 at 5:30 am

    Straight Grandmother, was the first person to bring this story to this site numerous threads ago, I also saw Phelps son interviewed on t.v. he made it pretty clear his father had psych problems

  • 77. Buffy  |  October 6, 2010 at 6:28 am

    The morally bankrupt trying desperately to scrub the blood from their hands, and failing.

  • 78. Rhie  |  October 6, 2010 at 6:59 am

    And recipes made with love that turn out badly are generally cause for laughter anyway.

  • 79. JonT  |  October 6, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Starting an IV drip. Cause that's how I roll.

  • 80. RebeccaRGB  |  October 6, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    Papa Foma's comment was missing an italics tag.

    WordPress should really fix this bug. If it's been fixed, the site admin should really update WordPress. If it hasn't been reported, someone should really report a bug.

  • 81. My last day with P8TT: Re&hellip  |  October 7, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    [...] other lyric stanza I want to pull out relates to the news of violence, and the response of NOM’s own Maggie Gallagher (among others) to it on this tour: Fools are [...]

  • 82. My last day with P8TT: Re&hellip  |  October 7, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    [...] other lyric stanza I want to pull out relates to the news of violence, and the response of NOM’s own Maggie Gallagher (among others) to it on this tour: Fools are [...]

  • 83. Are you an anti-LGBT cons&hellip  |  October 13, 2010 at 9:17 am

    [...] or so ago, I did a piece on these recent suicides anti-LGBT conservative responses to it, titled “Are you an anti-LGBT conservative? Are you worried about people questioning your role in anti…“ In it, I wrote that there is a time-tested recipe for how they respond to such news. [...]

  • 84. Golden Oldie: Are you an &hellip  |  December 29, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    [...] or so ago, I did a piece on these recent suicides anti-LGBT conservative responses to it, titled “Are you an anti-LGBT conservative? Are you worried about people questioning your role in anti…“ In it, I wrote that there is a time-tested recipe for how they respond to such news. [...]

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