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]]> By: Bob http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/21/legacy-exclusions/#comment-221553 Bob Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:53:50 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1966#comment-221553 @Robert, well that clears things up, welcome to the site, are you new, or have you been lurking? I'm not implying anything negative by the term lurking, I think that's a positive about this site, and a lot of people have access and may be learning things by that process. As well our opponents may be gaining insight into us as a community. It's also interesting to me to see what drives people from just reading, to jumping in and adding their views to the conversation, Which helps in terms of diversity of views. Thanks also for going so far as to declare your orientation, and that you are not out. This site also is good for that, cause you have now come out to us, and it's safe because it's still anonymous. You're right my question was daft, but the response was very enlightening , and encouraging, being daft in my questioning implies the right to disagree vehemently which you did, and hope you continue to do. so really Robert thanks for coming out. I celebrate that, . @Robert, well that clears things up, welcome to the site, are you new, or have you been lurking? I'm not implying anything negative by the term lurking, I think that's a positive about this site, and a lot of people have access and may be learning things by that process. As well our opponents may be gaining insight into us as a community. It's also interesting to me to see what drives people from just reading, to jumping in and adding their views to the conversation, Which helps in terms of diversity of views.

Thanks also for going so far as to declare your orientation, and that you are not out. This site also is good for that, cause you have now come out to us, and it's safe because it's still anonymous.

You're right my question was daft, but the response was very enlightening , and encouraging, being daft in my questioning implies the right to disagree vehemently which you did, and hope you continue to do. so really Robert thanks for coming out. I celebrate that, .

]]> By: Robert http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/21/legacy-exclusions/#comment-221552 Robert Tue, 23 Mar 2010 02:08:35 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1966#comment-221552 @Everyone Well, I can see now that 'hatero' has, and was intended to have, and different nuance than what leaps to my mind. Still, I have a dislike of using words in a way that gives such a potential for misunderstanding. And while those misunderstandings may be fairly few here, they are far more likely if the word is used elsewhere. Besides, the English language already has a word for such people - bigots. It's shorter, has less potential for confusion and has a pleasing number of hard consonants, and so can double up as an expletive. What's not to like! @Bill Nobody is saying anything about stripping your right to free speech. Crying 'free speech' when your views are criticised is a pretty low move. You were tarring every member of a group with the same brush. This is exactly the sort of thing that the bigots do, and requires criticism. @Bob Don't be daft. Just because someone disagrees in some way, possibly vehemently, does not mean that they are one of the enemy. This sort of polarisation is not helpful at all. If you really must know, I'm bi, I'm not out but I won't lie if asked. But that shouldn't be relevant to anything I have said so far. @Everyone

Well, I can see now that 'hatero' has, and was intended to have, and different nuance than what leaps to my mind. Still, I have a dislike of using words in a way that gives such a potential for misunderstanding. And while those misunderstandings may be fairly few here, they are far more likely if the word is used elsewhere.

Besides, the English language already has a word for such people – bigots. It's shorter, has less potential for confusion and has a pleasing number of hard consonants, and so can double up as an expletive. What's not to like!

@Bill

Nobody is saying anything about stripping your right to free speech. Crying 'free speech' when your views are criticised is a pretty low move. You were tarring every member of a group with the same brush. This is exactly the sort of thing that the bigots do, and requires criticism.

@Bob

Don't be daft. Just because someone disagrees in some way, possibly vehemently, does not mean that they are one of the enemy. This sort of polarisation is not helpful at all. If you really must know, I'm bi, I'm not out but I won't lie if asked. But that shouldn't be relevant to anything I have said so far.

]]> By: Sheryl http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/21/legacy-exclusions/#comment-221551 Sheryl Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:13:41 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1966#comment-221551 Dieter, I'm sorry that my wording affended you. I read an article this morning that did not mention the pool, just that for adults, pre-existing conditions would not be covered until 2014. In my limited time before having to go to work, I did search trying to find more detailed info, but guess I didn't search for the correct words. I am glad that in 90 days there will be a pool established for those adults with pre-existing conditions. Sheryl Dieter, I'm sorry that my wording affended you. I read an article this morning that did not mention the pool, just that for adults, pre-existing conditions would not be covered until 2014. In my limited time before having to go to work, I did search trying to find more detailed info, but guess I didn't search for the correct words. I am glad that in 90 days there will be a pool established for those adults with pre-existing conditions.

Sheryl

]]> By: Sheryl http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/21/legacy-exclusions/#comment-221550 Sheryl Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:58:36 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1966#comment-221550 thanks, I am a California registered voter, so no problem there. thanks, I am a California registered voter, so no problem there.

]]> By: Ronnie http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/21/legacy-exclusions/#comment-221549 Ronnie Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:17:19 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1966#comment-221549 I like adding the word Ally because 1. it forces the Hateros to acknowledge that there are Straight people who support us and are considered apart of our community......2. It separates the demon spawned Hateros from the humans.....and 3. it Distinguishes that our community is not about sexuality but about who we are as a person......If they want to demonize, criminalize, alienate, segregate, discriminate, and degrade one then they must take the Uganda/Nazi route and include us all.....Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered, Queer, Questioning, Intersexed, and Ally.....but they will never be able to do that in this country....that is why we will win.....Anywho....there is one word for the whole thing....It's called HUMANS......the Hateros just refuse to accept that.....so sad......<3...Ronnie I like adding the word Ally because 1. it forces the Hateros to acknowledge that there are Straight people who support us and are considered apart of our community……2. It separates the demon spawned Hateros from the humans…..and 3. it Distinguishes that our community is not about sexuality but about who we are as a person……If they want to demonize, criminalize, alienate, segregate, discriminate, and degrade one then they must take the Uganda/Nazi route and include us all…..Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered, Queer, Questioning, Intersexed, and Ally…..but they will never be able to do that in this country….that is why we will win…..Anywho….there is one word for the whole thing….It's called HUMANS……the Hateros just refuse to accept that…..so sad……<3…Ronnie

]]> By: Dan Hess http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/21/legacy-exclusions/#comment-221548 Dan Hess Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:56:37 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1966#comment-221548 Wait, A is Ally? So we're supporting people who support people? XD Yeah, like I said, we definitely need a WORD rather than an acronym. Wait, A is Ally? So we're supporting people who support people? XD Yeah, like I said, we definitely need a WORD rather than an acronym.

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