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		<title>By: fiona64</title>
		<link>http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/19/love-across-borders/#comment-221399</link>
		<dc:creator>fiona64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa, despite your arguments to the contrary, comparing gay men and lesbians to pedophiles is NOT a reasonable comparison.  Why?  Because we are talking about consenting adults wishing to marry here -- not about a crime of power over a subordinate person.  Pedophilia is RAPE, sweetie, not sex.  Rape is about power, not sex.

Now, why don&#039;t you go back to your Tea Party and leave the civilized folk here alone?

Love,
Fiona</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa, despite your arguments to the contrary, comparing gay men and lesbians to pedophiles is NOT a reasonable comparison.  Why?  Because we are talking about consenting adults wishing to marry here &#8212; not about a crime of power over a subordinate person.  Pedophilia is RAPE, sweetie, not sex.  Rape is about power, not sex.</p>
<p>Now, why don&#8217;t you go back to your Tea Party and leave the civilized folk here alone?</p>
<p>Love,<br />
Fiona</p>
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		<title>By: fiona64</title>
		<link>http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/19/love-across-borders/#comment-221400</link>
		<dc:creator>fiona64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you really have swallowed all of the BS talking points, haven&#039;t you? 
 
You show me a pet who can read, understand and sign a marriage license, sugar-britches.  Just do it.  As soon as you can prove it&#039;s possible, I&#039;ll be the first one standing in line to champion the rights of sapient, sentient animals. 
 
Until then, just take your insulting bullshit out of here, okay?  Because you are likening gay men and lesbians to bestiality and pedophilia, despite your protestations to the contrary.  See, honey, we can read and everything. 
 
I&#039;m straight, and I find you so far beyond disgusting that I cannot describe it.  I can only imagine how the GLBT folks here feel, with you saying that their loving relationships are comparable to child and animal rape. 
 
Love, 
Fiona </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you really have swallowed all of the BS talking points, haven&#039;t you? </p>
<p>You show me a pet who can read, understand and sign a marriage license, sugar-britches.  Just do it.  As soon as you can prove it&#039;s possible, I&#039;ll be the first one standing in line to champion the rights of sapient, sentient animals. </p>
<p>Until then, just take your insulting bullshit out of here, okay?  Because you are likening gay men and lesbians to bestiality and pedophilia, despite your protestations to the contrary.  See, honey, we can read and everything. </p>
<p>I&#039;m straight, and I find you so far beyond disgusting that I cannot describe it.  I can only imagine how the GLBT folks here feel, with you saying that their loving relationships are comparable to child and animal rape. </p>
<p>Love,<br />
Fiona</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DAMMIT 
 
that&#039;s &lt;b&gt;view&lt;/b&gt; not &lt;b&gt;via&lt;/b&gt;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAMMIT </p>
<p>that&#039;s <b>view</b> not <b>via</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/19/love-across-borders/#comment-221397</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#8217;s a fair example to present to gay people, because gay people view pedophilia with the same disdain that some heterosexuals view homosexuality; whereas homosexuals, obviously, can only see the positive aspects of homosexuality.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
 
Interesting.  The way you&#039;ve worded it, only homosexuals via pedophilia with disdain. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It&rsquo;s a fair example to present to gay people, because gay people view pedophilia with the same disdain that some heterosexuals view homosexuality; whereas homosexuals, obviously, can only see the positive aspects of homosexuality.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interesting.  The way you&#039;ve worded it, only homosexuals via pedophilia with disdain.</p>
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		<title>By: fiona64</title>
		<link>http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/19/love-across-borders/#comment-221396</link>
		<dc:creator>fiona64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Translation of Melissa&#039;s post:m &quot;I don&#039;t really have an argument, just my deepseated belief that gay people are &quot;icky&quot; and &quot;unnatural,&quot; despite repeated explanations and demonstrations that both are inaccurate.  My made-up-out-of-whole-cloth degree in biology tells me everything I need to know.  Those bonobos apes are just sinful and they choose to be gay.  We can send them to Primate Exodus and they&#039;ll be cured.&quot; 
 
Bye-bye, honey.  Be sure to have your white sheet and hood neat and tidy for your next Tea Party Rally. 
 
Idiot. 
 
Love, 
Fiona </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Translation of Melissa&#039;s post:m &quot;I don&#039;t really have an argument, just my deepseated belief that gay people are &quot;icky&quot; and &quot;unnatural,&quot; despite repeated explanations and demonstrations that both are inaccurate.  My made-up-out-of-whole-cloth degree in biology tells me everything I need to know.  Those bonobos apes are just sinful and they choose to be gay.  We can send them to Primate Exodus and they&#039;ll be cured.&quot; </p>
<p>Bye-bye, honey.  Be sure to have your white sheet and hood neat and tidy for your next Tea Party Rally. </p>
<p>Idiot. </p>
<p>Love,<br />
Fiona</p>
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		<title>By: fiona64</title>
		<link>http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/19/love-across-borders/#comment-221395</link>
		<dc:creator>fiona64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She got it at &quot;Close Cover While Striking&quot; University, Ronnie. 
 
Love, 
Fiona </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She got it at &quot;Close Cover While Striking&quot; University, Ronnie. </p>
<p>Love,<br />
Fiona</p>
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		<title>By: fiona64</title>
		<link>http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/03/19/love-across-borders/#comment-221394</link>
		<dc:creator>fiona64</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa, if you have a degree in biology, I&#039;m the queen of Sheba. 
 
Don&#039;t let the door hit you where your god split you. 
 
Love, 
Fiona </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa, if you have a degree in biology, I&#039;m the queen of Sheba. </p>
<p>Don&#039;t let the door hit you where your god split you. </p>
<p>Love,<br />
Fiona</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And incidentally there are no negative aspects of homosexuality that cannot be equated to heterosexuality.....a fact that you Hateros seem to happily ignore where as the heteros (our straight allies) do not.....We see the negative...you just assume that we don&#039;t....because for some reason you hateros are psychics and know everything about us including the things that we don&#039;t say or do....Melissa, You&#039;re a &quot;Gay Whisperer&quot;.....and there you go again telling us what we do and not see....you are not Gay or a mind reader and you refuse to see things though our eyes....where we have seen things though your eyes...that&#039;s why we have a debunking for everything you state....not to mention that we have straight people (fiona64 among others) that will back us up......enough said....if you say you are going to leave...then leave....don&#039;t continue to harass us....it&#039;s really not attractive....respectfully read what was already said and DEAL WITH IT!!!.......&lt;3....Ronnie </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And incidentally there are no negative aspects of homosexuality that cannot be equated to heterosexuality&#8230;..a fact that you Hateros seem to happily ignore where as the heteros (our straight allies) do not&#8230;..We see the negative&#8230;you just assume that we don&#039;t&#8230;.because for some reason you hateros are psychics and know everything about us including the things that we don&#039;t say or do&#8230;.Melissa, You&#039;re a &quot;Gay Whisperer&quot;&#8230;..and there you go again telling us what we do and not see&#8230;.you are not Gay or a mind reader and you refuse to see things though our eyes&#8230;.where we have seen things though your eyes&#8230;that&#039;s why we have a debunking for everything you state&#8230;.not to mention that we have straight people (fiona64 among others) that will back us up&#8230;&#8230;enough said&#8230;.if you say you are going to leave&#8230;then leave&#8230;.don&#039;t continue to harass us&#8230;.it&#039;s really not attractive&#8230;.respectfully read what was already said and DEAL WITH IT!!!&#8230;&#8230;.&lt;3&#8230;.Ronnie</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem Melissa with you uneducated comparison and its a comparison whether you like it or not.....Is that the LGBTQQIA community finds pedophillia wrong because MOST of us are victims of it.....again get your facts straight....That&#039;s how all of us took your O.P. days ago including the straight allies.....It&#039;s too late for an apology.... 
 
Again dopty-daddy....it has the word apologize in it....and yet it still makes you and the rest of us sound like its our fault that we where offended.....hmmmmm..... 
 
I just love when a TROLL repeatedly says goodbye and I&#039;m not coming back...and yet there she is again(he says exhaustedly).....Koo Koo Koo......Koo Koo Koo......&lt;3....Ronnie </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem Melissa with you uneducated comparison and its a comparison whether you like it or not&#8230;..Is that the LGBTQQIA community finds pedophillia wrong because MOST of us are victims of it&#8230;..again get your facts straight&#8230;.That&#039;s how all of us took your O.P. days ago including the straight allies&#8230;..It&#039;s too late for an apology&#8230;. </p>
<p>Again dopty-daddy&#8230;.it has the word apologize in it&#8230;.and yet it still makes you and the rest of us sound like its our fault that we where offended&#8230;..hmmmmm&#8230;.. </p>
<p>I just love when a TROLL repeatedly says goodbye and I&#039;m not coming back&#8230;and yet there she is again(he says exhaustedly)&#8230;..Koo Koo Koo&#8230;&#8230;Koo Koo Koo&#8230;&#8230;&lt;3&#8230;.Ronnie</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard - 
 
I did not mean that gays are like pedophiles, I meant that the arguments for/against homosexuality could be made for/against pedophilia in that both involve sex between people that not everyone agrees should be considered acceptable and normal.   
 
It&#039;s a fair example to present to gay people, because gay people view pedophilia with the same disdain that some heterosexuals view homosexuality; whereas homosexuals, obviously, can only see the positive aspects of homosexuality.  Of course the reasons for the hatred of the sexual acts are not analogous, and I did not mean to suggest that homosexuality hurts people (like pedophilia does).  If that&#039;s how you took my opinion, I apologize. 
 
All that said (and I really gotta go), based on my first intended final comment, it is not out of the question that a society could transform and rationalize the acceptable use of children as sex objects, conjuring up some form of good that comes to the children from it thereby removing the need for legal consent or lowering the age of consent to some ridiculously low age.  No? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard &#8211; </p>
<p>I did not mean that gays are like pedophiles, I meant that the arguments for/against homosexuality could be made for/against pedophilia in that both involve sex between people that not everyone agrees should be considered acceptable and normal.   </p>
<p>It&#039;s a fair example to present to gay people, because gay people view pedophilia with the same disdain that some heterosexuals view homosexuality; whereas homosexuals, obviously, can only see the positive aspects of homosexuality.  Of course the reasons for the hatred of the sexual acts are not analogous, and I did not mean to suggest that homosexuality hurts people (like pedophilia does).  If that&#039;s how you took my opinion, I apologize. </p>
<p>All that said (and I really gotta go), based on my first intended final comment, it is not out of the question that a society could transform and rationalize the acceptable use of children as sex objects, conjuring up some form of good that comes to the children from it thereby removing the need for legal consent or lowering the age of consent to some ridiculously low age.  No?</p>
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