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By: K!r!lleXXI

K!r!lleXXI — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:37:22 +0000

Well, what can I say about this "Russian" story… I'm not surprised… Not surprised to see these people laughing because I live amongst them in Russia, and I know if something like that were to happen here, they would be laughing just like that… When in February I shared on this blog my views on Russia and homosexuality — I wasn't lying or exaggerating… if anything, I was downplaying. And this story is case in point!

And Dieter… You're a fucking asshole to talk like that to Straight Grandmother… without giving her a chance to see that those words of Scott Lively could have been untrue. If that guy really pulled down his pants, then the police report should have mentioned that his body was found like that… or there must be some reliable witnesses. Of course, we shouldn't believe this motherfucker Lively, we need facts. But you shouldn't jump people like that… maybe Granny didn't know who this Lively is, maybe she assumed she can trust his words? You could have expressed this without insulting her and threatening her grandchildren! I don't know who embarrassed me most in this story — my "fellow" Russians who laughed at the supposedly gay man being killed, or you, my "fellow" gay man, who couldn't explain her why she might be wrong in this case without insulting her and threatening her grandchildren… I guess, it's the latter… I'm embarrassed to be gay right now, to be in the same "gay men" group with you! Those Russians are ignorant and that's why they're bigoted… but for you I have no excuse. You are turning into a hater, you harm our cause, you harm us, yourself and our allies… Stop this shit right away!

–Kirill, Russia

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:43:34 +0000

Maybe the story didn't pan out quite like we think. Maybe the police went to the service members command to tell them she was withholding information. If the command asks why she would know where this person is, they simply say that she's married. That would cause too much attention to be drawn to a situation where it would have been documented that they were married to not do something about it.

By: Sagesse

Sagesse — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:46:33 +0000

I read that the marriage license was visible through a window. They didn't have to enter the home to see it.

By: erasure25

erasure25 — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:43:39 +0000

Wouldn't the police officers need a warrant to search the service member's home? And specifically, wouldn't the warrant need to specify the items being searched for? Any information obtained outside of the warrant is not permissible in a court, right?

Or is it different for the military/military tribunal?

By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:12:42 +0000

Wolfinlv please read Dan Choi's experience about his return to the military as an openly gay man. He was recently interviewed about his thoughts on this, and what he had to say was mind blowing, basically it's about us a LGBT people finding our soul, and taking responsibility for our journey on the planet, when we put ourselves forward from that perspective we have to let go of expecting negative responses
It reminds me of a speach I read and you can find a link which Kathleen posted, by Granny D, she said we are presently fighting slavery of the mind, and in this case the biggest problem is that most people don't wish to be emancipated from their thoughts or belief of how the world is.
Lastly, maybe we could just research the other countries who have gone beyond these limitations, and have been serving openly for years.

By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:00:18 +0000

Chris, well said, we can't stereotype period, my partner and I owned a business in a very small community, lumberjacks, hunters, farmers, all came in to do business and supported us, what I learned from hat experience is that I had to come to grips with my own sexuality, anyone that is clear about their own sexuality , for example, our next door neighbour, or the lumberjack down the street, who where comfortable being straight, were in no way threatened by us, and actually became good friends.
The alarm bells go off instantly for guys that are uncertain about their sexuality, they feel threatened .