Comments on: 0 for 2: Blankenhorn Looks Lost http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience Perry v. Schwarzenegger: Tracking the right-wing Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:06:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: NVLawMan http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208273 NVLawMan Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:05:49 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208273 No, they actually had a lot of money left over after the election. They did what any good "family values" team would do: came to Vegas and blew their wad on hookers and blow! ha ha ha ha ha [Allegedly] No, they actually had a lot of money left over after the election.

They did what any good "family values" team would do: came to Vegas and blew their wad on hookers and blow! ha ha ha ha ha [Allegedly]

]]> By: Ronnie http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208272 Ronnie Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:19:32 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208272 He said it!!!!!!!! Obama Said it!!!!! The Bigots are DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He said it!!!!!!!! Obama Said it!!!!!
The Bigots are DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Ronnie http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208271 Ronnie Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:24:47 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208271 I just made this statement to my mother I felt the need to share it after watching the video together posted by straight ally #3008........ <a href="http://.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcpMtD3lgjQ" rel="nofollow">.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcpMtD3lgjQ</a> The people who are against same sex marriage and equality continue to ignore the simple fact that this is about human. EVERYONE! It hurts not just LGBT people whose lives are destroyed by these anti-equality laws. It hurts our kids, not just teens but babies, infants, toddlers, 5yo's, 10yo's!...... those of who have children..... It hurts our heterosexual friends, families, co-workers, neighbors, supporters and their families and kids...... It hurts us not just those who have been in relationships for years but those of us who are single and do have dreams of finding mr/mrs perfect and be just as committed as others We are teens, 20 somethings, Over the hilliers, Baby boomers, Black, white, asian, latino, muslim, straight, gay, transexual, lesbian, bisexual, religious, non-religious, left handed, right handed, brunette, blonde, black haired, red haired, blue haired, HUMAN. WE ARE ALIVE AND WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!!!!!!! I just made this statement to my mother I felt the need to share it after watching the video together posted by straight ally #3008…….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcpMtD3lgjQ” rel=”nofollow”>.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcpMtD3lgjQ

The people who are against same sex marriage and equality continue to ignore the simple fact that this is about human. EVERYONE!

It hurts not just LGBT people whose lives are destroyed by these anti-equality laws.

It hurts our kids, not just teens but babies, infants, toddlers, 5yo's, 10yo's!…… those of who have children…..

It hurts our heterosexual friends, families, co-workers, neighbors, supporters and their families and kids……

It hurts us not just those who have been in relationships for years but those of us who are single and do have dreams of finding mr/mrs perfect and be just as committed as others

We are teens, 20 somethings, Over the hilliers, Baby boomers, Black, white, asian, latino, muslim, straight, gay, transexual, lesbian, bisexual, religious, non-religious, left handed, right handed, brunette, blonde, black haired, red haired, blue haired, HUMAN.

WE ARE ALIVE AND WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Miller http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208270 Miller Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:09:10 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208270 It's so frustrating the lies they tell and most people will never investigate further than the statement of their favorite web site. So sad. It's so frustrating the lies they tell and most people will never investigate further than the statement of their favorite web site. So sad.

]]> By: Miller http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208269 Miller Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:06:15 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208269 Exactly, so why do they insist on having special provisions put into law about this? It's so stupid of that side. Exactly, so why do they insist on having special provisions put into law about this? It's so stupid of that side.

]]> By: One Last Day of Testimony: Pugno Persists « Prop 8 Trial Tracker http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208262 One Last Day of Testimony: Pugno Persists « Prop 8 Trial Tracker Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:54:10 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208262 [...] pretty shabby so far. Unless Blankenhorn’s redirect is simply amazing, he’s also going to be a net loss for their side. But don’t worry, Pugno can tell you how it really is: The afternoon brought [...] [...] pretty shabby so far. Unless Blankenhorn’s redirect is simply amazing, he’s also going to be a net loss for their side. But don’t worry, Pugno can tell you how it really is: The afternoon brought [...]

]]> By: Tom B. http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208268 Tom B. Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:33:05 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208268 But of course in this case, Walker has no problem with keeping his job since he's a Federal judge :) But of course in this case, Walker has no problem with keeping his job since he's a Federal judge :)

]]> By: Scott http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208267 Scott Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:27:15 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208267 Thank you again Warren. I hope people don't feel it is too off topic. I just goes to show how cynical I guess some of us have grown being shunned at every turn in the effort to be truly equal members of society. I certainly do appreciate that, even if we can't marry (yet!) in the US, we do not have to worry about being jailed or publicly murdered by the government or by the religious right for that matter. For all their evil and ignorant, hate based views.....they have at least not resorted to outright murder to try and scare people into submission. Though I supposed you could argue that by their relative silence on hate based violence and their opposition to equality they are not much better than those who do perpetrate violence in the name of their "cause". I thank you for the additional insight in to South Africa's history and how SSM came about there. I don't know what we will decide on and who knows, despite my pessimistic outlook on a lasting positive outcome with this decision, I may be overjoyed and surprised at the outcome! I pray and certainly hope so. As the t-shirt I had made to support SSM, the Reuniting Families Act and the Respect for Marriage Act say....."Love will prevail......" Thank you again Warren. I hope people don't feel it is too off topic. I just goes to show how cynical I guess some of us have grown being shunned at every turn in the effort to be truly equal members of society. I certainly do appreciate that, even if we can't marry (yet!) in the US, we do not have to worry about being jailed or publicly murdered by the government or by the religious right for that matter. For all their evil and ignorant, hate based views…..they have at least not resorted to outright murder to try and scare people into submission. Though I supposed you could argue that by their relative silence on hate based violence and their opposition to equality they are not much better than those who do perpetrate violence in the name of their "cause".

I thank you for the additional insight in to South Africa's history and how SSM came about there. I don't know what we will decide on and who knows, despite my pessimistic outlook on a lasting positive outcome with this decision, I may be overjoyed and surprised at the outcome! I pray and certainly hope so. As the t-shirt I had made to support SSM, the Reuniting Families Act and the Respect for Marriage Act say….."Love will prevail……"

]]> By: Kim http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208266 Kim Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:11:36 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208266 I'm with you, Tim (I'm not the same Kim who commented above). It seems like they could have found witnesses who could have held up better and been more competent and qualified, even though they could never have made a compelling factual case, they might have presented themselves better. It really does feel like they are trying to lose. I am a professor, and if I was ever asked to be an expert witness, I would sure as hell take some time to review all of the relevant studies, and look back over my own work to see if there was anything that they might use against me. It's like their witnesses didn't even do that -- which really seems to be the bare minimum! That said, the other Kim has a great point -- the lack of real experts on their side is a result of the fact that the evidence is overwhelmingly on our side. SS marriage is beneficial to society, and does no harm to OS marriages or to children. They have no rational way to argue otherwise. I'm with you, Tim (I'm not the same Kim who commented above). It seems like they could have found witnesses who could have held up better and been more competent and qualified, even though they could never have made a compelling factual case, they might have presented themselves better. It really does feel like they are trying to lose.

I am a professor, and if I was ever asked to be an expert witness, I would sure as hell take some time to review all of the relevant studies, and look back over my own work to see if there was anything that they might use against me. It's like their witnesses didn't even do that — which really seems to be the bare minimum!

That said, the other Kim has a great point — the lack of real experts on their side is a result of the fact that the evidence is overwhelmingly on our side. SS marriage is beneficial to society, and does no harm to OS marriages or to children. They have no rational way to argue otherwise.

]]> By: Alena http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/26/0-for-2-the-defendants-are-playing-for-some-other-audience/#comment-208265 Alena Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:01:09 +0000 http://prop8trialtracker.com/?p=1492#comment-208265 "...small minds small." That in itself speaks volumes. "…small minds small."
That in itself speaks volumes.

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