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	<title>Comments on: Liveblogging Day 5: Part II Michael Lamb cross</title>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 13:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only just studying for the LSAT now, but isn&#039;t that just fundamentally bad legal logic? By simply saying that a study has some ulterior motive, it doesn&#039;t negate the findings of the study. You have to prove that the study is flawed in some way. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m only just studying for the LSAT now, but isn&#039;t that just fundamentally bad legal logic? By simply saying that a study has some ulterior motive, it doesn&#039;t negate the findings of the study. You have to prove that the study is flawed in some way.</p>
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		<title>By: Dudlyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dudlyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what I was thinking. Arguing about what type of parents gay couples makes shouldn&#039;t impact the decision on marriage because regardless gay couples will continue to raise children and have families. No matter the decision they will not start taking people&#039;s children away based on their sexual orientation.  
 
If only this all could be seen by the general public. When I mention this case to all the straight people I know, most of them do not even know that this is going on or even what Prop 8 is about. If this could be on tv, it would help make it visible. There is still so much ignorance around us. I wish so many people could see this testimony and read the accounts shared in the comments. All of this shows the real struggle we go through everyday just to be ourselves. It breaks my heart how under the radar this case is right now. And I say this with obvious understanding that Haiti should be at the forefront of news, because much help is needed (And I say this with a deep level of understand as a Haitian woman myself). It is all too evident as a triple minority(woman, black, lesbian) that this is a very important civil rights movement. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s what I was thinking. Arguing about what type of parents gay couples makes shouldn&#039;t impact the decision on marriage because regardless gay couples will continue to raise children and have families. No matter the decision they will not start taking people&#039;s children away based on their sexual orientation.  </p>
<p>If only this all could be seen by the general public. When I mention this case to all the straight people I know, most of them do not even know that this is going on or even what Prop 8 is about. If this could be on tv, it would help make it visible. There is still so much ignorance around us. I wish so many people could see this testimony and read the accounts shared in the comments. All of this shows the real struggle we go through everyday just to be ourselves. It breaks my heart how under the radar this case is right now. And I say this with obvious understanding that Haiti should be at the forefront of news, because much help is needed (And I say this with a deep level of understand as a Haitian woman myself). It is all too evident as a triple minority(woman, black, lesbian) that this is a very important civil rights movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Liveblogging Day 5: Daily Summary &#171; Prop 8 Trial Tracker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liveblogging Day 5: Daily Summary &#171; Prop 8 Trial Tracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Roberta K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republican != idiot; my Republican relatives routinely laugh at the antics of the theocons while worrying about the damage they&#039;re doing to the GOP. As one of the few liberals, I just sit back and chuckle to myself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republican != idiot; my Republican relatives routinely laugh at the antics of the theocons while worrying about the damage they&#8217;re doing to the GOP. As one of the few liberals, I just sit back and chuckle to myself&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Liveblogging Day 5: Part I &#171; Prop 8 Trial Tracker</title>
		<link>http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/2010/01/15/liveblogging-day-5-part-ii-michel-lamb-cross/#comment-197377</link>
		<dc:creator>Liveblogging Day 5: Part I &#171; Prop 8 Trial Tracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liveblogging Day 5: Part II Michel Lamb cross [...] </description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised he never introduced the SCUM Manifesto into evidence with the way he was going. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m surprised he never introduced the SCUM Manifesto into evidence with the way he was going.</p>
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		<title>By: waxr</title>
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		<dc:creator>waxr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Prop. 8: Many differences in our society between men and women. Men go to prison, alcoholics, violent. &quot; 
 
I fail to see the point in the above statement.    Is the attorney trying to say that men should not be allowed to marry?  That would make only marriage between women legal.   
 
But there are women in prison, some women are alcoholics, and some women are violent.   Maybe he is trying to say that people in jail, alcoholics, or violent should not be allowed to get married.   But prisoners, alcoholics and the violent have a recognized right to marry. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Prop. 8: Many differences in our society between men and women. Men go to prison, alcoholics, violent. &quot; </p>
<p>I fail to see the point in the above statement.    Is the attorney trying to say that men should not be allowed to marry?  That would make only marriage between women legal.   </p>
<p>But there are women in prison, some women are alcoholics, and some women are violent.   Maybe he is trying to say that people in jail, alcoholics, or violent should not be allowed to get married.   But prisoners, alcoholics and the violent have a recognized right to marry.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s odd is that the defense seems to be forgetting that gay couples are already raising children, whether or not they are married.  Does the defense think that if we prevent same-sex couples from marrying, they will no longer raise children? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#039;s odd is that the defense seems to be forgetting that gay couples are already raising children, whether or not they are married.  Does the defense think that if we prevent same-sex couples from marrying, they will no longer raise children?</p>
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		<title>By: Petr Tome&#353;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petr Tome&#353;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.glad.org/uploads/docs/cases/2009-11-17-doma-aff-lamb.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.glad.org/uploads/docs/cases/2009-11-17...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;L: You have done a great job of refreshing my memory of very old documents. I hope you have in some of these other tabs my more up to date research (Laughter).&quot; 
 
This is a lovely and very snarky reply.  Gold stars for Lamb- he&#039;s flaying the Prop 8 lawyer here and it&#039;s beautiful. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;L: You have done a great job of refreshing my memory of very old documents. I hope you have in some of these other tabs my more up to date research (Laughter).&quot; </p>
<p>This is a lovely and very snarky reply.  Gold stars for Lamb- he&#039;s flaying the Prop 8 lawyer here and it&#039;s beautiful.</p>
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